Craven bus route fears as firm ‘may cease trading’

There are concerns over the future of Craven bus routes run by Pennine Motors.

North Yorkshire County Council confirmed that it has been informed “there is a possibility Pennine Motor Services may cease trading in the next few months”.

The firm which runs its orange and black liveried buses throughout Craven including school transport, operates services from Skipton to Settle, Malham, Embsay, Carleton, Barnoldswick, Earby, Colne, Nelson and Burnley.

The company itself has refused to make any comment on the council’s statement.

But a source close to the company told the Craven Herald that a full service is still being provided.

Other sources said the company has given staff notice of potential redundancy.

A spokesman for North Yorkshire County Council said: “Pennine operate a number of commercial services in the Skipton area and these carry some pupils who are entitled to free home to school transport.

“In the event that the company does cease trading the county council will make alternative arrangements to transport these children.

“We will also consider which, if any, of the commercial services we may wish to see continue to be provided and may seek to retain these through short term arrangements if necessary.”

The law requires that any transport company planning to stop services must notify the transport authority, such as the county council, and the traffic commissioner, within 56 days.

A spokesman from The Office of the Traffic Commissioner said: “We are not currently considering any bus registration applications under the operator licence held by Pennine Motor Services.

“Any operator that wishes to vary or cancel registered bus services must apply to the Traffic Commissioner and give 56 days’ notice before a registration can be varied or cancelled. In some circumstances, a short notice application can be made but the Traffic Commissioner has to be satisfied the application meets the relevant criteria before a service can be amended or terminated without giving the full 56 days’ notice."

A spokesman for Lancashire County Council said they had received no notice that services might cease.

The news comes almost three years after the death, aged 79, of Norman Simpson, who ran the family firm for decades. It was founded in 1925 by his father and two uncles.

The licence is now held by Maurice Simpson and Partners, trading as Pennine Motor Services.

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3:10pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Jamiesiam says...

Their service was never very good at the best of times and theyhave the distinction of having the rudest driver I have ever encountered!
Their service was never very good at the best of times and theyhave the distinction of having the rudest driver I have ever encountered! Jamiesiam
  • Score: -16

3:52pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Catty girl says...

This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's
And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable!
This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable! Catty girl
  • Score: 13

9:28am Fri 21 Mar 14

ZoidbergDR says...

One of the reasons given for Skipton being voted the best place to live was great transport links. Personally I thought that was farfetched before but if Pennines were to close it would make that statement as false as the “buzzing high street” we have. Granted they weren’t the best of buses but a lot of people are very dependent on the service they provide. The elderly will be very badly affected by this.
One of the reasons given for Skipton being voted the best place to live was great transport links. Personally I thought that was farfetched before but if Pennines were to close it would make that statement as false as the “buzzing high street” we have. Granted they weren’t the best of buses but a lot of people are very dependent on the service they provide. The elderly will be very badly affected by this. ZoidbergDR
  • Score: 10

8:25pm Sat 22 Mar 14

jonathancrewdson says...

Catty girl wrote:
This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's
And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable!
Its the transport authority that choses whether or not to subsidise bus services, i.e. North Yorkshire, not the Government. If the county council had done so then maybe these services would be viable. Metro in West Yorkshire is the equivalent body run by all the district councils and it subsidises bus and train services.

The Transdev services don't overlap for these routes. You can't get one of their buses into the Dales (the furthest they go is Skipton) and in order to get to Colne, Burnley or Nelson you'd have to first go down to Cross Hills to catch it.
[quote][p][bold]Catty girl[/bold] wrote: This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable![/p][/quote]Its the transport authority that choses whether or not to subsidise bus services, i.e. North Yorkshire, not the Government. If the county council had done so then maybe these services would be viable. Metro in West Yorkshire is the equivalent body run by all the district councils and it subsidises bus and train services. The Transdev services don't overlap for these routes. You can't get one of their buses into the Dales (the furthest they go is Skipton) and in order to get to Colne, Burnley or Nelson you'd have to first go down to Cross Hills to catch it. jonathancrewdson
  • Score: -1

10:28am Sun 23 Mar 14

coates warder says...

at least you can understand the pennine drivers
at least you can understand the pennine drivers coates warder
  • Score: -2

7:09am Tue 25 Mar 14

craven50 says...

jonathancrewdson wrote:
Catty girl wrote:
This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's
And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable!
Its the transport authority that choses whether or not to subsidise bus services, i.e. North Yorkshire, not the Government. If the county council had done so then maybe these services would be viable. Metro in West Yorkshire is the equivalent body run by all the district councils and it subsidises bus and train services.

The Transdev services don't overlap for these routes. You can't get one of their buses into the Dales (the furthest they go is Skipton) and in order to get to Colne, Burnley or Nelson you'd have to first go down to Cross Hills to catch it.
Sorry to say you are misinformed. To get from Skipton to Colne,Burnley et al. Transdev own and run the Mainline services in Pendle. They run X29 X28 from Skipton! + a double decker on Sundays to Grassington;-)
[quote][p][bold]jonathancrewdson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Catty girl[/bold] wrote: This is really sad news that an independent bus service is to cease it's the transdev mainline service that has forced this company off road along with the government cuts on subsidiary's And as for the rudest bus drivers well I am sorry but I have always found the barnoldswick to burnley drivers very polite and friendly unlike the mainline drivers! But I guess they have a lot to put up with some of our public users who often think being drunk or rude to drivers is acceptable![/p][/quote]Its the transport authority that choses whether or not to subsidise bus services, i.e. North Yorkshire, not the Government. If the county council had done so then maybe these services would be viable. Metro in West Yorkshire is the equivalent body run by all the district councils and it subsidises bus and train services. The Transdev services don't overlap for these routes. You can't get one of their buses into the Dales (the furthest they go is Skipton) and in order to get to Colne, Burnley or Nelson you'd have to first go down to Cross Hills to catch it.[/p][/quote]Sorry to say you are misinformed. To get from Skipton to Colne,Burnley et al. Transdev own and run the Mainline services in Pendle. They run X29 X28 from Skipton! + a double decker on Sundays to Grassington;-) craven50
  • Score: 0

4:43pm Tue 25 Mar 14

pjl20 says...

Jamiesiam wrote:
Their service was never very good at the best of times and theyhave the distinction of having the rudest driver I have ever encountered!
Are you a car driver who never ever uses public transport?

The Craven bus routes operated by Pennine Motors are vital to the community. Without these routes communication will become much more difficult and expensive for those that have to use such transport. Schoolchildren will have to be ferried around in taxis at council expense.

Just think about the inconvenience and extra costs involved.

Will an alternative carrier be sought if Pennine do withdraw and close down?
[quote][p][bold]Jamiesiam[/bold] wrote: Their service was never very good at the best of times and theyhave the distinction of having the rudest driver I have ever encountered![/p][/quote]Are you a car driver who never ever uses public transport? The Craven bus routes operated by Pennine Motors are vital to the community. Without these routes communication will become much more difficult and expensive for those that have to use such transport. Schoolchildren will have to be ferried around in taxis at council expense. Just think about the inconvenience and extra costs involved. Will an alternative carrier be sought if Pennine do withdraw and close down? pjl20
  • Score: 5

10:16pm Tue 25 Mar 14

proudnorthener says...

A lot of people use Penine to get to work, like at Systagenix and Premier Inn in Gargrave and care workers around the area. How will they continue to get to work? - not everyone has a car!
A lot of people use Penine to get to work, like at Systagenix and Premier Inn in Gargrave and care workers around the area. How will they continue to get to work? - not everyone has a car! proudnorthener
  • Score: 7

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