Plans for Sainsbury's in Skipton set to be refused

Craven Herald: Plans for Sainsbury's in Skipton set to be refused Plans for Sainsbury's in Skipton set to be refused

Controversial plans to build a Sainsbury’s superstore and industrial park in Skipton look set to be thrown out by Craven District Council on Monday.

Developer Henry Boot’s Wyvern Park – on land between Waltonwrays Cemetery and Sandylands Sports Centre – has received a robust recommendation of refusal from planning officers.

But the developers say they are “extremely disappointed” by the officer’s report.

The plan is for a superstore larger than either Morrisons and Tescos, start-up business units, a 7,000 sq metre warehouse and office block, outline plans for a hotel and eating and drinking establishments.

But officers have criticised the poor design and the impact it could have on the town centre.

Monday’s Planning Committee will hear that the council’s retail consultant Martin Tonks has concluded that the scheme should not be supported because of its “significant adverse impact on Skipton town centre”.

Councillors, who will carry out a site visit ahead of the meeting, will further be recommended to refuse permission because of the design of the industrial units and the supermarket itself which are considered to lack “local distinctiveness”.

The size and nature of the development would also have a “severely adverse and detrimental” impact on the tranquillity of the conservation area, including Waltonwrays Cemetery.

And, due to a “lack of structural planting and absence of space” within the layout of the scheme, it would fail to maintain and enhance the landscape.

Skipton Town Council, while welcoming employment opportunities within the scheme, has “significant reservations” about the findings of the retail assessment.

Objections have also been received by 149 individuals, businesses and organisations, including Morrisons and Tesco, Skipton Civic Society, both the Rendezvous and Herriot’s hotels, and a number of sports clubs.

A Henry Boot spokesperson said: “We have worked hard to address the issues raised during the planning process and we are extremely disappointed to see the officer’s recommendation.

“We do not accept that our development will have a significantly adverse impact on the town centre. We are confident that our own retail assessment is correct and have provided a detailed response to the local authority.

“By providing an improved retail offer for Skipton we can help to retain more consumer spending in the town. Currently, almost 30 per cent of expenditure on food and other convenience items is being spent outside the area.

“The foodstore will fund the necessary infrastructure required for the business park as well as provide greater customer choice and competition.

“We remain determined to deliver this development. This site has long been identified as the most appropriate for the new commercial space that Skipton desperately needs.

“Without this expansion of commercial space there is a real risk that existing businesses will in time be forced to leave the area in order to expand. Similarly the opportunity to attract new companies to the town will be seriously hampered. “

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9:58am Thu 3 Apr 14

Skipton Ratepayer says...

As with the monstrosity behind the Town Hall, thedevelopers will appeal and someone who has never set foot in Skipton will say it can go ahead. All the work of the planners, the councillors and the objectors, overruled at a stroke. Why do we bother? I hope this time it won't happen, but with little confidence.
As with the monstrosity behind the Town Hall, thedevelopers will appeal and someone who has never set foot in Skipton will say it can go ahead. All the work of the planners, the councillors and the objectors, overruled at a stroke. Why do we bother? I hope this time it won't happen, but with little confidence. Skipton Ratepayer
  • Score: -8

10:26am Thu 3 Apr 14

giggleloader says...

Unfortunately, Skipton town centre will miss out on all those Sainsburys shoppers, who will carry on supporting Keighley and Colne, instead of driving to Skipton, which may be nearer for them. Supermarket shoppers from out of town typically patronise other businesses in town, whilst they're there.
Unfortunately, Skipton town centre will miss out on all those Sainsburys shoppers, who will carry on supporting Keighley and Colne, instead of driving to Skipton, which may be nearer for them. Supermarket shoppers from out of town typically patronise other businesses in town, whilst they're there. giggleloader
  • Score: 0

11:43am Thu 3 Apr 14

Skipton man says...

I guess they're looking for a bigger backhander.
I guess they're looking for a bigger backhander. Skipton man
  • Score: 14

8:31am Fri 4 Apr 14

SkippyTheBushKangaroo says...

I really hope, at appeal, that they get permission. There's a simple answer to the objections about the high street.....if you want to continue to support the high street then choose to. Nobody is being forced to go to a supermarket, you do it by choice. The bus loads of visitors on market days wouldn't be thinking "Ooohh we're going to Skipton The first place we must visit is Sainsburys" As for objections from Morrisons and Tesco and Rendezvous, they should be ignored immediately. It's clear why they would object to a Supermarket and a hotel being built.

It also wasn't long ago that people were up in arms about Morrisons charging for parking....maybe something like Sainsburys might remove those car park charges and the Petrol prices that people were so upset about?

I personally feel I'm adult and strong enough to balance my High street shop and Supermarket shop between both the High Street (Where I want that more personal service and advice witgh what I'm buying) and one of the Supermarkets that provides the best value for the things you struggle to get on the high street. (I can usually choose milk and cereal without a conversation or advice)

Use that fantastic grey thing we've been given in our heads and make our own minds up.
I really hope, at appeal, that they get permission. There's a simple answer to the objections about the high street.....if you want to continue to support the high street then choose to. Nobody is being forced to go to a supermarket, you do it by choice. The bus loads of visitors on market days wouldn't be thinking "Ooohh we're going to Skipton The first place we must visit is Sainsburys" As for objections from Morrisons and Tesco and Rendezvous, they should be ignored immediately. It's clear why they would object to a Supermarket and a hotel being built. It also wasn't long ago that people were up in arms about Morrisons charging for parking....maybe something like Sainsburys might remove those car park charges and the Petrol prices that people were so upset about? I personally feel I'm adult and strong enough to balance my High street shop and Supermarket shop between both the High Street (Where I want that more personal service and advice witgh what I'm buying) and one of the Supermarkets that provides the best value for the things you struggle to get on the high street. (I can usually choose milk and cereal without a conversation or advice) Use that fantastic grey thing we've been given in our heads and make our own minds up. SkippyTheBushKangaroo
  • Score: 16

12:57pm Fri 4 Apr 14

willow_wanderer says...

Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more.

Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased.

Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid.

Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored.

What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities.

Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :(
Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more. Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased. Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid. Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored. What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities. Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :( willow_wanderer
  • Score: 17

9:49pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Skipton Ratepayer says...

willow_wanderer wrote:
Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more.

Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased.

Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid.

Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored.

What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities.

Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :(
I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads.
[quote][p][bold]willow_wanderer[/bold] wrote: Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more. Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased. Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid. Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored. What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities. Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :([/p][/quote]I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads. Skipton Ratepayer
  • Score: -16

12:01am Sat 5 Apr 14

Mart56 says...

Skipton Ratepayer wrote:
willow_wanderer wrote:
Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more.

Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased.

Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid.

Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored.

What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities.

Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :(
I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads.
And cheaper petrol, more choice for shoppers, more jobs for the area....
[quote][p][bold]Skipton Ratepayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willow_wanderer[/bold] wrote: Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more. Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased. Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid. Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored. What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities. Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :([/p][/quote]I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads.[/p][/quote]And cheaper petrol, more choice for shoppers, more jobs for the area.... Mart56
  • Score: 1

6:50am Sat 5 Apr 14

dennisnilsen says...

CDC are waiting for a fatter brown envelope from Waitrose.
CDC are waiting for a fatter brown envelope from Waitrose. dennisnilsen
  • Score: 0

1:06pm Mon 7 Apr 14

willow_wanderer says...

Skipton Ratepayer wrote:
willow_wanderer wrote:
Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more.

Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased.

Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid.

Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored.

What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities.

Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :(
I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads.
I know a dozen people in Willow Way are in favour - the street immediately next to it, and a couple of people (I dont know many people in Burnside) in Burnside are in favour.

The developers have stated they will block lorry traffic from and to the site going through Skipton, so it will mean less traffic that way.

I do have a concern that more traffic may be generated via Carleton, and the peaceful nature of the area will be gone - which is a real shame, but the positve is a genuine road link out of the area straight onto the bypass - at the moment we have to go via the tesco juntion or the junction opposite morrisons and through town - which is a real slow slugfest, and improved amenities such as the ability to get a pint of milk without having to go 1.5 miles into carleton or tesco at night.

And extra jobs...not much REAL employment in Skipton outside HMLand Skipton Building Society
[quote][p][bold]Skipton Ratepayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willow_wanderer[/bold] wrote: Skippy...I couldnt agree with you more. Objections from direct competitors should be immediately dismissed as biased. Objections from high street centre based shops that dont compete on the same goods as a supermarket should be dismissed as invalid. Objections from Skipton based builders sour they arent building the deveoplement, and with a proven record of bullying the council should be ignored. What should count the most is the people that actualy live in the area - and they are overwhelmingly in favour of the improved road links and facilities. Good luck to them, through I suspect local opinion will be ignored in favour of the business rate payers :([/p][/quote]I agree about the business objectors, and the opinions of people who don't live here are irrelevant. But I have yet to meet anyone who lives in Skipton, especially on the south-west side, who is in favour of the development. It will just mean more traffic on already busy roads.[/p][/quote]I know a dozen people in Willow Way are in favour - the street immediately next to it, and a couple of people (I dont know many people in Burnside) in Burnside are in favour. The developers have stated they will block lorry traffic from and to the site going through Skipton, so it will mean less traffic that way. I do have a concern that more traffic may be generated via Carleton, and the peaceful nature of the area will be gone - which is a real shame, but the positve is a genuine road link out of the area straight onto the bypass - at the moment we have to go via the tesco juntion or the junction opposite morrisons and through town - which is a real slow slugfest, and improved amenities such as the ability to get a pint of milk without having to go 1.5 miles into carleton or tesco at night. And extra jobs...not much REAL employment in Skipton outside HMLand Skipton Building Society willow_wanderer
  • Score: 6

4:54pm Mon 7 Apr 14

willow_wanderer says...

Something else worth mentioning...when I first moved into Willow Way, they were talking about putting a waste management centre into that field - that is admittedly part of the reason I am pro this development - its considerably better then a stinking waste barn/sorting shed!
Something else worth mentioning...when I first moved into Willow Way, they were talking about putting a waste management centre into that field - that is admittedly part of the reason I am pro this development - its considerably better then a stinking waste barn/sorting shed! willow_wanderer
  • Score: 4

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